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How to Train for the Mark Forester JAG 28 Birthday Walk / Ruck – 12 Years of Practice

March 24, 2023 By Thad Forester

Mark Forester JAG 28 Walkers at stop 2 in 2018

This is an update to an article I published here in 2016. Since I’m now training for my 13th JAG 28 Memorial Birthday Walk, I’ve learned a few things, made some modifications to how I train and what gear I use. Some of it is based on necessity, some on preference and experience, and some may be that my body is changing ever-so slightly (I’m now 46 years old).

When do I start training?

The JAG 28 Walk is every May. Even though I ruck very often all year, I start my longer distance training in late January. This is where I may try new socks, shoes, underwear, belts, etc. I start out my low mileage using 30 lbs in my rucksack. Once I get into March or April, I lower to 20 lbs, then by late April, I’m not adding weight, just focused on mileage.

As of today, March 11, I just finished my last training ruck with 30 lbs (at 6 miles). I’m now going down to 20 lbs for about a month, then will remove all the added weight for training for this specific event.

I never get as many miles as I’d like b/c of limited time, however, it’s important to get up to at least half of what the official walk will be (this is a very bare minimum). Since I’ve done the walk for 12 years, I know what to expect and can follow my suggestions above. If it was my first time, I’d get more than 14 miles before the actual event. 14 miles is half and is normally enough distance to know if my feet will blister, socks and shoes will work, and that my legs and hips are ready. This is also enough distance to test out food and drink (if other than water) to see how my stomach reacts.

Don’t let there be any surprises pop-up 10-15 miles into the event. DO NOT show up day-of with untested gear or you will regret it. *It’s important to note that this 28 mile memorial walk covers mostly rural areas, including a 6-mile dirt road in a national forest. This means it’s not easy to “drop out” of the event. Therefore it’s critical to be prepared so there are no surprises with your body or gear.

thad_jag 28 walk
Year 2016, mile 12

How often do I train for the walk?

From January until May, I walk at least two times/week. I usually get one long walk on Fridays or Saturdays, and then a minimum of 1-2 smaller walks during the week. Sometimes we go out as a family after supper and get in 20 mins of walking. This may only be 3/4 to 1 mile, but it’s great for the family and a great post-meal activity. Another great benefit of rucking–it’s a family affair. I’ll also take a break during the day from working and ruck one mile in neighborhood. It does the body and soul good.

My training terrain

I walk on terrain that is similar to the actual memorial walk. Our route in Haleyville is mostly on paved roads and a somewhat hilly area. The elevation is on average 950 feet, with an elevation gain of the entire 28 miles being 1,194 ft. The terrain is important for a few reasons: 1) if it were off road, I would wear the MACV-1 boots since they are high-tops and I want the ankle support and more aggressive sole for traction, and 2) being prepared for hills or elevation, if applicable. This event is a fairly predictable environment, but weather could change that quickly.

Speaking of weather; if you have the chance to train in rain, do it. Rain will not stop our event. One year it was in the 40’s and rained for the first few hours. It’s important to know what you’ll wear in that instance–poncho, jacket or nothing different. I put on a jacket that year, but that’s it. My pants covered the tops of my shoes, so my socks and feet didn’t get too wet (obviously they weren’t skinny pants).

Hydration

Although I’ve never had problems with this, it can be tricky. With training being in the winter and spring, most of my walks don’t require much water, but come May the heat and humidity will demand it. I like a mixture of Gatorade and water. I’ve seen very healthy and active people drop out due to cramps b/c they didn’t get enough salt (coming from me as a non-medical professional, I know). We tried hard to ‘revive’ a young guy last year, but it was too late. We were 23 miles in and he was done due to dehydration. He was okay, just his pride hurt and physically couldn’t walk any more.

Also, I don’t recommend trying new energy drinks or gels without testing them out. Seen this happen too–someone’s passing out energy drinks and samples, people take it for the first time and get sick or dehydrated. On the day of the walk, only use what you’ve tested.

Gear I use

Here is what I use to give you some ideas. Hopefully it’s helpful to others.

Shoes: GORUCK Ballistic Trainers (previous years I used the MACV-1 and other hiking boots, but now I like these shoes since it’s mostly paved roads for this event)
Socks: Balega Hidden Comfort (previous years I used Smartwool, but these new ones work well with the Ballistic Trainers). Note: GORUCK just released some new socks that I will be trying.
Backpack: GORUCK Bullet Rucker 4.0 (previous years used the GR2, but the Bullet Rucker is smaller, which is more appropriate for this walk).
Underwear: SAXX. Laugh all you want, but for me, this is very important. I don’t really need to elaborate here, but since I don’t have 4% body fat, my inner-thighs will rub together, therefore I must have something to prevent that friction. SAXX does the job very well, and doesn’t hold too much moisture. I will not use cotton for this event.
Shirt and pants: Dri-fit or tri-blend shirt with thin, fast-drying pants or shorts. Of course, I use GORUCK shorts or pants.

Extra socks, shirt, underwear, first aid and Bulletproof Bands (formerly Ruck Wrap)
Year 2022. First time I wore shorts and the Ballistic Trainers shoes

What I do at each rest area

We have designated rest stops every 4-7 miles. This allows us to sit, eat and recharge. I also take this time to change into fresh, dry socks (that I’ve kept dry in a zip lock bag). Normally, I put some body powder/talc on my feet to help dry them quickly. I also use Body Glide on my feet–heels, ball and any high-friction spot. In addition, I use this on my inner thighs.

My priority at each stop is to get my feet dry, socks changed, address any hot spots, compression therapy on my achilles, refuel, pee and get ready to go as quickly as possible. We aren’t in a huge rush, but time is of the essence at each stop. Sitting too long, especially later on in the day, can make it more difficult to get up and move again. So, figure out how to be as efficient as possible at each stop.

foot care
Lots of foot care at every rest stop
I developed my first blister on the walk in 2021 at mile 24

Since my achilles rupture and surgery, I’ve started using compression therapy on my achilles/ankle. Last year I used it at the rest areas during the 28 mile walk. This helped with swelling and inflammation (had zero swelling last year). I plan to continue this year. It’s also a big part of my recovery after my training walks/rucks.

Other tips/blister kits

Since we’ll be outside for about 10.5 hours, don’t forget sunscreen. Most years I wear pants just to have less skin exposed. Last year I wore shorts, with a long sleeve, dri-fit type shirt. I like that combo too.

Put together a simple blister kit with various sizes of moleskin, band aids, possibly scissors and tape. I’m not an expert on doctoring blisters during the event since I’ve never had many. The ones I’ve gotten, were small and we got moleskin on them quickly. I’ve seen many big ones and some participants have popped and drained the puss mid-event, while others left the bubble until the walk was over or they popped it if they had to drop out.

Also, clip your toenails. It’s amazing what pain or discomfort this simple act can prevent.

A walker from 2018. It could be worse, but this is bad enough. Avoid this happening.

Previous Years Surprises

Fortunately, I’ve had only a few surprises over the years. What stands out the most is for a few years my ankles swelled pretty big and I had to elevate them for a couple days after.

Also, every year until 2022 I used Smartwool trekking socks. They felt great on my feet, but by the end, my ankles broke out in a rash that lasted a few days. This happened every year. Not a big deal, just itched a little for a few days. Once I switched to the Balega Hidden Comfort socks, no more of that issue.

Some years I’ve gotten severe chills after the walk too. I’ve not researched why, but it’s never been a problem, just noticeable.

It will be different for all. The goal is to be so prepared that you’re good after the event. Of course you’ll be tired and sore, but you should be able to go about more normal activities the following day. This is usually my experience. After the 2022 walk, I felt better than I ever have. I attribute that to the Ballistic Trainer shoes and the Balega Hidden Comfort socks. Getting plenty of miles in before the event was pretty crucial too.

Walkers in 2015

Summary

Train, train, train. As Mark Lauren always says, “you only get good at what you do.” It’s important to mix in some weight training too. Those legs will get tired. And when we do Memorial Push-ups at the end, you want some gas left in the tank. Training only by walking will not prepare you for that.

Too many times to count participants have shown up to the event and told me they didn’t train b/c they workout regularly or do CrossFit. Also, I’ll never forget the face of a walker as her husband removed (aka yanked) her toenail at about mile 27. She was not happy. So, training by walking is the best preparation.

For additional tips on training for the ruck/walk, a former combat controller Matt Mueller provided these to me years ago, which are absolutely spot on (scroll down under the first picture in the link to read the add’l tips).

I’d love to hear how you train, what gear you use, tips on preventing or treating blisters, etc. And I’d really like to see you at the Mark Forester JAG 28 Memorial Birthday Walk this year. Come on and just do it! It’s a unique event with a great spirit about it. How many events can you exercise and spend many hours with others, while being able to talk?

Affiliate disclaimer: I earn a small commission from GORUCK if you purchase their products with my links listed above. This is no additional cost to you. I chose to become an affiliate b/c I believe in their products and use them–and have since 2015.

Filed Under: Exercise, Life of Thad, Reviews, The Mark Forester Foundation Tagged With: ballistic trainers, goruck, jag 28, mark forester, memorial pushups, memorial walk, ruck, rucking, training

Ep 102 | Darrell Utt – Army Special Forces (Ret.) and National Medal of Honor Museum Foundation Chief of Bus. Ops

March 13, 2023 By Thad Forester

MSG Darrell Utt retired from the U.S. Army Special Forces in January of 2017 after 26.5 years in the Army.

For this episode, he joins me in person and we have a great time covering the purpose of the National Medal of Honor Museum being constructed in Arlington, TX and why TX was chosen over Colorado. It seems Jerry Jones had something to do with it too.

He shares some Medal of Honor recipients who most resonate with him and what the Medal of Honor recipients want this museum to actually be–focus on courage, sacrifice, commitment, integrity, citizenship and patriotism.

We also discuss his time in Iraq in 2006 with Operation Parliament. He and his team were able to rescue a hostage unharmed after letting the kidnappers know in no uncertain terms that it would be in their best interest to release her to avoid further action against them.

In addition, we cover his favorite books, IEDs, his Alive Day of April 17, 2006–how 1″ made the difference, leadership lessons from Iraq, control what you can control, can’t fake preparation, calm breeds calm and more. Thanks for visiting me in Huntsville Darrell!

Mentioned in this podcast:

Burn the Boats book
Darrell on Combat Story podcast
Where the Red Fern Grows book
Last Out – Elegy of a Green Beret by Scott Mann
Ep 29: Larry and Janice Brown, parents of Adam Brown
Ep. 69: Woody Williams
Ep. 62: Sammy Davis

*Big thanks to M. Troy Bye at Our Town Podcast for hosting us in his studio.

Copyright 2023 Thad Forester
www.patriottothecore.com
email questions to thad@patriottothecore.com

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Ep 101 | Matthew Reed – Military Intelligence, Afghanistan, Ukraine, Russia and China

February 27, 2023 By Thad Forester

Matthew Reed started his military career in the Marines. After being honorably discharged in 2007, he joined the Army and became an Interrogator and a Military Intelligence NCO, deploying to both Iraq and Afghanistan. Then from 2012 through 2022, Matt worked as an Intelligence Contractor for the U.S. Department of Defense, with roughly six years in the Balkans Region of Europe, where his mission was to root out hostile penetrations of our HUMINT Source pool.

Matthew and I have an interesting discussion on the Chinese surveillance balloons and why China should be very concerned by what the U.S. thinks of them, the global effects of the war in Ukraine, the humiliating withdrawal from Afghanistan, interrogation tactics and the importance of studying the Roman Empire.

We close by learning about his books, based on his real life growing up in Houston, and from his career in the military.

Mentioned in this podcast:

Matthew on Cleared Hot Podcast w/ Andy Stumpf

Purchase Matthew’s books here:

The Houston Thriller Series

Copyright 2023 Thad Forester
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Ep 100 | Michael Blout – Combat Controller, Silver Star Recipient

February 6, 2023 By Thad Forester

Michael Blout joins me to talk about the battle from 2012 where he was awarded the Silver Star. As a former Flight Superintendent, Combat Dive Course Superintendent, and Superintendent over the Department of Training, Special Warfare Preparatory Course and more, we talk much about preparation, mindset, leading, integrating into a team and never quitting. During the CCT pipeline, Blout was smoked many times by one of his instructors, Mark Lauren (aka Klinganator or Cyborg). Mark is also a former guest on this show.

He also shared how to keep the sharks away while scuba training and threw in some surprises about dolphins.

Mike is another Air Force Combat Controller who is a silent professional. He’s sacrificed his body and family to fight evil and to serve in other various ways throughout the world. “Take care of your people and they will take care of you.”

One of Blout’s SF teammates, “Big Mike” Duskin, was killed in this battle on Oct 23, 2012. Please take time to read about him at this link: https://www.duskinandstephens.org/duskin

I hope you enjoy the intro music and full song at the end of this interview. It was written by former Air Force CCT, and 2-time PTC guest, Dan Schilling. You can learn the history of this song here. Dan’s goal is for it to be something that urges people to turn up the volume when they play the track!

“My hope was that this song rocks enough that guys I wrote it for will enjoy it and powerful enough to leave an indelible emotional impact crater,” Schilling said, “one you want to revisit over and over again.”

Copyright 2023 Thad Forester
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Ep 099 | Yvette Sierra – Gold Star Mother to SrA Danny Sanchez

January 9, 2023 By Thad Forester

On Sept 16, 2010, Yvette’s son, Daniel Ray Sanchez (Danny) was killed in Afghanistan by an insurgent who infiltrated the Afghanistan partner force.

Today, Danny’s mom tells us why this “ball of energy” was made for Combat Control and what happened on his first deployment – how was an insurgent able to get on the helicopter with Danny and his team and then kill Danny when they landed. Fortunately, that guy was killed immediately, but only after injuring others, and of course killing one of America’s bravest.

Yvette started the SrA Danny Ray Sanchez Foundation and holds an annual race on Labor Day weekend to raise money to provide scholarships to Montwood High School graduates, and hopefully to other schools in the district soon.

Yvette and I have become friends since 2010. We’ve mourned together and attended several events together. I loved finally getting to have her on Patriot to the Core. Listen to this mother’s love of her son as she shares how she was notified and how she’s handled his loss since. We also discuss how Danny’s death affected her youngest son, Dakota, since he’s no longer being duct-taped to the door or being hung on the door knob by his underwear, compliments of his big brother.

You can also watch this interview on YouTube here.

Mentioned in this episode:

Memorial 3 Gun
Combat Control Foundation

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