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Shorts Review: GORUCK Challenge Shorts vs. Prometheus Design Werx Raider Field Short TRS ATB

July 20, 2024 By Thad Forester


In addition to this written review, you can watch my video review here with more details:


GORUCK and Prometheus Design Werx (PDW) are two companies that produce high quality clothing and gear. I have tremendous respect for them both.

The purpose of this review is to compare their material, fit, sizing, how well each repels water and how quick they dry. These shorts do not have the exact same uses–the PDW Raider Field Shorts are more technical–have more pockets and options. The GORUCK Challenge Shorts are more simple. So, I’m not comparing their uses/functionality, only the material and fit.

Sizing

Prometheus Design Werx Raider Field Shorts runs big in the waist. I wear a 36″ in the waist for all GORUCK shorts and pants (pretty much in every brand of pants). But, with these PDW shorts, I had to return the 36″ waist and get 34″. The 34″ fit perfect–just like 36″ in everything else.

How Do They Repel Water?

The above video covers this in detail, with video of getting them wet. The GORUCK Challenge Shorts definitely repel water better than the Prometheus Design Werx Raider Field Short. Neither is water proof, but the PDW get wet almost instantly, where the GORUCK repel initially.


How Quick do they Dry?

In the video, I soak both shorts in water, wring them out and hang to air dry outside. After 2 hrs 15 mins, I checked them both. The GORUCK Challenge Shorts were completely dry. The PDW Raider Field Shorts were all dry except the front pockets. Still wearable, but not completely dry.

Fit and Feel

GORUCK: 10.5″ inseam. I’m 6′ 1″ and the 36″ waist shorts come to top of my knees. Legs are a little bigger in the thighs. Despite the PDW Raider Field Shorts being more stretchy, I’ve never had any limitations while exercising or doing any activities in the Challenge Shorts (or Simple Shorts). They stretch too, just not as much as the PDW.

PDW: 10″ inseam. I’m 6′ 1″, the 34″ waist shorts come just above my knees, slightly shorter than the Challenge Shorts. Legs are a little smaller than on the Challenge Shorts. The material stretches well, better than the GORUCK shorts.

Overall

You can’t go wrong with either shorts, but they each have different benefits. For instance, if you want shorts to workout outside, get wet, muddy, sandy, dry fast, abrasion resistant, etc, then the GORUCK Challenge Shorts are the best option (really any GORUCK shorts, like the Simple Shorts too).

If you want shorts to work outside without restrictions, abrasion resistant, have plenty of pockets and features for hiking, camping, etc, and will dry fast, the Prometheus Design Werx Raider Field Short are a great option. But, once again, that’s not why I wrote this review. This review is focused on material and fit. Obviously, both shorts have much overlap in uses and strengths.

If you wear both shorts, let me know what you like and dislike about them, what you use them for, etc.

I use the GORUCK shorts much more than PDW b/c I do more rucking/hiking instead of camping, climbing and trekking.

This review is a short, simple review that hopefully gets right to the point. If you want more details and visuals, watch my YouTube video above.

Affiliate note:

I am a GORUCK affiliate, so I get a small percentage commission with each sale if you purchase GORUCK products from my links. This does not cost you any additional money–the prices are the same for buyers. I do this b/c I have a weird obsession with good gear and clothing. I have used GORUCK products since 2015 and have been impressed with their quality and versatility. I don’t do this to make a living, only to help support my habit of buying high-quality items from GORUCK, PDW, and other American companies.

Filed Under: GORUCK Reviews, Reviews Tagged With: aparrel, apparel, goruck, hiking, outdoors, pdw, rucking, tough pants, tough shorts, trekking

Hand-made Morale Patch Boards | Father/Son Business

July 5, 2024 By Thad Forester


Our boys are always drawing gear, weapons, shoes, etc. and have wanted to start a business for a few years. We finally found something that we can do b/c we already make these patch boards for ourselves.

We thought Etsy would be the best and simplest place to sale our custom products. You can visit our store here:

https://jupiterpatchboards.etsy.com

This is a perfect gift for anyone in or retiring from the military, law enforcement, gov contractor, Boy Scouts, or a military family. We are a Gold Star Family and have collected many morale/tactical/unit/club patches over the years. Our boys and I use this board to display our patches and to easily swap them out on our caps, backpacks, vests, packing cubes, and kit bags.

We plan to offer different sizes, colors and patch board stands in the future, along with custom patches.

Below is a short video showing the boards being made by the boys and the finishing touches by me.


This .25″ x 12″ x 24″ wooden board is coated with clear shellac wood finish and is made to lean up on a shelf or be mounted to the wall (mounting hardware and patches not included).

Comes with black loop velcro tape applied on one side for easy attachment of patches of any size with a hook back side.

First Jupiter Patch Board Sale

By supporting our Etsy store, you are supporting very young entrepreneurs who are pumped to sell their product(s) online.

Here is our Etsy store link: https://jupiterpatchboards.etsy.com

We hope your enjoy your board because we not only make them, but use them in our home.


Another use for patches–and this one below is our custom patch, perfect for missionaries and/or church:


The patch in the video above is available in our Etsy store too: https://jupiterpatchboards.etsy.com

Filed Under: Do-it-yourself, Family, News Tagged With: combat patch, goruck, jupiter patch boards, jupiterx, law enforcement patch, le patch, morale patch, reflective patch, tactical patch, tribe kids, unit patch

GORUCK Discount Codes

April 28, 2024 By Thad Forester


BLUF: (Bottom line up front) – The below codes provide 10% discount on GORUCK purchases. Use my link to their main page here and then go to the product(s) you want:

EASTER
JBAKER

REDBEARD10

The compilation of pics above are just a sampling of the GORUCK gear and clothing that I own. And I not only own it, but I use it–all the time (since 2015). This post is b/c I believe in the GORUCK brand and understand that it’s expensive and not everyone can afford it, especially on a regular basis. Many of the items I buy are paid off over time with Affirm while others have to be budgeted.

In the realm of outdoor enthusiasts and avid ruckers, few brands command as much respect and admiration as GORUCK. Known for their tough and versatile gear designed to withstand the roughest of conditions, GORUCK has become synonymous with quality, durability, and a spirit of adventure. Whether you’re embarking on a ruck through the wilderness or city, tackling an urban exploration or city ruck, needing the most effective and efficient garage gym gear, traveling and only want a carry-on, or simply seeking reliable gear or clothing for everyday use, GORUCK has you covered. And for those seeking to save a few bucks on their next GORUCK purchase, discount codes offer a welcomed opportunity to indulge in premium gear while providing a little less guilt.

And if you’re mil, LE, Fire, medic, gov, or teacher, GORUCK offers a discount–always. You can read more about the Earned Service Discount here.

Once again, here are codes from other users with great experience and authority on GORUCK gear. These codes seem to consistently work. Use this link to visit GORUCK and enter any of the codes below at checkout for 10% off.
Note: the below codes are from sites/channels whose GORUCK reviews I respect. You can visit their sites by clicking the code names listed.

EASTER
JBAKER
REDBEARD10

Filed Under: GORUCK Reviews Tagged With: coupon, discount, goruck, rucking

GORUCK Rough Runners Review – After 28 Mile Ruck and 80 Total Miles

April 22, 2024 By Thad Forester


After completing a 28 mile City Ruck and training in these shoes the past 13 months, it’s time to provide an honest review of the GORUCK Rough Runners.

Note: if you’d rather watch my YouTube Review of these shows, see below. However, this article provides some details that I forgot to add in the video.


Background

Prior to these shoes, I never considered running-type shoes for rucking. I always used high tops for the ankle support (like the MACV-1) or the Ballistic Trainers. So, this was a big change for me. I decided to give the Rough Runners a try b/c after our 28 mile Mark Forester JAG 28 Birthday Walk/Ruck in 2023, my feet were very sore. I think it was due to the wavy surfaces on the paved country roads and gravel roads.

Intro

This particular city ruck event in March 2024 consisted of 28 miles (supposed to be about 26.2, but we got a little off course and had to correct), carrying 30-35 lbs in my rucksack, and these shoes took tremendous care of my feet and ankles–no blisters or hot spots.


Why I Even Gave Them a Try:

Per GORUCK: “Rough Runners™ will last longer and perform better for all who live on their feet, from endurance ruck/running junkies to the Fight Club Class taking 20K steps a day just doing the work.” With a bold statement like this, and my history with GORUCK, I trusted they know what they’re talking about.

Details of My Rucking Surfaces

I think this is important. All of my miles so far are on paved surfaces–sidewalks, paths, roads, parking lots. But, as I said in the intro, our annual 28-mile event in Haleyville, AL consists of many miles on paved, but wavy, unlevel country roads. The flexibility and thickness of the Rough Runners is why I want to try them out on this particular surface.

Below is a good example of the roads in our annual 28-mile event. They are paved with tar and gravel, but not super level.


Comfort

Probably most important to me–specifically, I’m talking being comfortable for a long time, not just feel good when trying on and walking around the store before purchasing. These shoes need no break-in, have no stiffness, and felt great on my feet from mile 1 to mile 80. I’ve had zero rubbing on my heal, ankle bone, and no hot spots on my feet. After 28 miles in Nashville with heavy weight, I had a crack on my right heal that was a little painful for a few days after. This had nothing to do with the shoes, but more with my feet prep and slight compensation due to my weak left achilles from surgery.

After 28 mile ruck with 30 lbs. Never changed my socks or took my shoes off until the end.

Sizing

These unisex shoes are true to size, especially compared to all other GORUCK shoes. I wear an 11.5 (US) in almost every brand of shoe and shoe type, including all other 4 pair of various GORUCK shoes. If you are really in between sizes and could go up or down easily, go up. I say this mainly b/c your feet will swell after lots of miles on your feet.

Note: They do not come in wide, only D/average. They have a True Fit calculator on the site to compare to other popular shoe sizes to help you determine what size you need.

Breathability

Plenty of polyester mesh to allow breathing and water drainage.


Water Drainage

I’ve not gotten them soaking wet and continued to ruck or train in them, so I can’t speak honestly on this topic yet. But, as with all other GORUCK shoes, I have zero doubts they don’t drain easily. GORUCK prides itself on how well their shoes and clothing drain and dry. Also, as said earlier, the polyester mesh allows breathing and water drainage and they will air dry quickly.

Better for Rucking, Walking, or Running?

Yes, all of the above and more. I’m a rucker and walker, not a runner. My running consist of under 2 miles at at time, so 99% of the miles on these shoes are rucking. They are built with maximum support for moving with weight. That means, the “cushioning” won’t wear out and get more “marshmellowy” over time.

I won’t try to provide advice for runners since that’s not what I do. I’d love input from runners though–what works, what doesn’t. How they compare to other running shoes, etc.

In the picture below, I’m carrying 30 lbs in my GR1 rucksack and two 44 lb sand kettlebells.


Sole Inserts

The custom high-density insert is the same as what comes in the Ballistic Trainers. Once again, made to support heavy weight over long periods of time.


Tongue Position

I’ve always been annoyed when the tongue in shoes slides down and/or to the side. The tongue in these keeps its position and needs no adjustment. It also doesn’t rub my ankle when wearing low profile socks. Small thing, but something I notice.


Reflectivity

Highly reflective pull tab on the back heel keeps you visible on the road or trail.


Conclusion

Of course there are many options for comfortable shoes. However, there are very few options that hold up to long miles with heavy weight (rucking), with quality that matches GORUCK. If you use them, or try them based on this review, give me some feedback – was I accurate? Did I miss anything? Did they feel comfortable from the first time you put them on? You can read about them on GORUCK’s site for all the specs and heal to toe drop.


I did a follow up post to this article in May 2024 after another 28 miles walking/rucking event here.

Side note: use the GORUCK Merino Challenge Socks with these and any other shoes. They are comfortable and snug and dry fast. Or, I also like to use the Balega Hidden Comfort socks for everyday and short rucks.

Here is a related article on the best shoes for rucking from Feb 2024.

For other GORUCK gear and apparel, visit these pages:

GORUCK Men’s Training Shoes (Ballistic Trainers and Rough Runners)

Train with Sand

GORUCK Apparel

Travel Gear

Filed Under: GORUCK Reviews Tagged With: endurance, exercise, goruck, ruckin, running, walking

Ep 115 | Brian Jodice – Men’s Heath and Recognizing Signs of Suicide

April 15, 2024 By Thad Forester

Brian Jodice (@brianjodice) of Pick Up The Six Productions and NGBN TV is back to promote this new network for men in their 40’s, 50’s and 60’s.

Discussed in this episode:

-why focus on this demographic?

-men’s mental health

-Biblical application

-best athletic gear and brands for outdoor workouts (specifically F3 and GORUCK events)

-prison ministering

-oldest man to play Division 1 football

-other random topics that may or may not offend

You can also watch this interview on YouTube here.

If you’d like to support Patriot to the Core podcast with a very small regular donation, visit my Patreon page here.

Brian Jodice was also on PTC in Episode 95.

Use code PUT6 at Mudgear.com for a discount, compliments of Brian.

Enjoy the outro music. This short song clip was written by former Air Force CCT, and 2-time PTC guest, Dan Schilling. You can learn the history of this song here. Dan’s goal is for it to be something that urges people to turn up the volume when they play the track!

Copyright 2024 Thad Forester
http://www.patriottothecore.com
email questions to thad@patriottothecore.com

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Filed Under: Patriot to the Core Tagged With: f3, goruck, mental health, suicide

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